Ok so im getting a new phone
i want the lg dare or the new
one HTC Touch Raphael(coming soon)
which should i get and when will the
HTC Touch Raphael come to verizon

That all depends, if you are a big "texter" then the Dare is a HORRIBLE choice. The touch screen is not that great and breaks easily, the new Voyager is a great phone and i would stick with it, it has the lease amount of complaints out of all Verizon phones.